Hi, , great article. However, I cannot use the information just yet…. I need to know are you talking about watts advertised (equivalent to HPS), or actual power draw from the wall. Eg. I am growing 8 small auto flowers in a 4×3 space. Plants are small, using about 1sq ft each. I am using a Bestva 800w (dual chip 10w) LED, with actual power draw from the wall of 150w. In your calculation I need abut 600w minimum. But are you referring to advertised wattage or actual power draw? Thanks!

I have a gorilla grow tent.
It’s a: 2×4×6′7". What’s a good LED grow light I can get, and what’s the best in-line fan for ventilation, I can use. Please let me know somebody!!!!

My grow area is 40feet by 8 feet or 320 square feet
How many plants can i grow
And how many lights do i need

Well go to Walmart online and you can get a LEDs for 80 to a100 bucks. I got a 1200 watt light I use more white and blue,then I got 2 _ 600 watt LEDs to. if you buy to 600 watt lights ( more red) you can cover more area being they shine straight down. These lights use very little power to running so 2400 watts cost 200 buck and maybe run power bill up 10 bucks. Note that keeping the light around 18 inches above your plants because you can burn then! Also the higher to put it the less stretching on your plant which mean tighter Leaf space which equal more flowers.

40 yrs exp.and sometimes less is more .Seedling n young clones need less more difused light so just old shop lights to start then add in or change up to led or what ever.

What you have to remember, there is a direct relationship between true wattage and plant mass example it doesn’t matter what your growing, so if we say you have 4 plants and you are providing 600 watts of light and you get 40oz of dry plant matter, for ease of convenience you get 10oz per plant, so lets say now you add 4 more plants under the same wattage you will still get 40oz of dry plant matter it will be distributed amongst the 8 plants in the form of 5oz per plant, so if you want more plant mass (fruit) you have to feed them more wattage its that simple. Using LEDs always look at the true wattage drawn from mains, and not what the manufacturer claims is the wattage,

Well it is almost 2018 and 100 bucks will get you the latest full spectrom 600 watt grow light.
But you could want to customize for your application.

Ok this is pretty stupid. It’s 2017 now. It is VERY easy to get a GREAT LED customized to the spectrum YOU want. Go to amazon, you can buy a 600w LED for 100 bucks. You may say ‘’thats a cheap led’’. Ok, it has all the spectrums I ASKED THEM FOR and it has lasted me over a year. Do you think 100 bucks for an led that last for a year is more of a waste than a 400 dollar LED light that last 2 years?

LED lights have come a long way. They produce less heat, can be brought closer to the plants and cost less than HID. Penetration is no longer an issue because of these facts. You can bring the light very close to your plants without detrimental effect. A little training and your light easily reaches anywhere you want as long as its has the watts for it. If you know how to train correctly, you can get away with a lot less watts too but we’re not here for that.

All I’m saying is that you can get AMAZING results with a 100 dollar LED from amazon. There is no reason to buy anything else with the prices of these things now days. Go with what has the most reviews and make sure there is a return option.

LEDS

Cost less money to buy AND operate
Creates less heat
Can be brought lower to the plants without burning
Last longer than HID
Take up way less space
Can be customized to your specific light wavelength

don’t waist money on expensive LED lights. i bought 150 watt LED “flood” lights at Lowes. they were $20 a pair. i purchased the metal round hangers where i inserted one bulb. i hung the lights on a rope 2 feet above the vegetative plants. the lights are about 2 feet apart on the rope. each came with a clip that can attach to rope. in an 8 foot area i have four 150 watt LED flood light hanging above the plants. the lights are on 24/7. my plants grow 3 inches every two days or about. The metal light fixtures cost about $6 at Lowes. two bulbs and two fixtures cost me about $52. plants grow very well.

So what’s better a 4ft by 8ft tent or a 6ft by 6ft tent and will a single 200 watt led light be sufficient for my tent

Sorry to say but didnt see any useful info here
plants dont give a damn about lumens …they want umoles …in specific wavelenghts…
leds dont look as bright(flashy ?) as hps because there is no glare …from the bulb.
people get em too close and stunt or burn their plants …lack is the far far red spectrum(black body) which is heat…quartz halogen can compensate for that in moderation (bloom) and there is no correlation between ‘’ how many plants’’ and led wattage…stuff 50 clones in a 2×2 even with a 1000 true watts led and they will all fall short or die ..cos they know the spatial space they occupy, and overcrowding is not their forte…and lets be honest top bin leds are like gold to lighting companies they are even reserved in advance and its not for grow lights that you get on the internet …those high end leds get you to spend mostly on cooling..and efficient led drivers , the leds themselves are very rarely top bin , so to give a better bang for the buck they fine tune the surroundings…dont be fooled and build yourselves a light , make it adlustable to your own needs and genetics the price will be about the same…but the overall quality will be better good day

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So if i grow 16 plants on 11 sq. What do i need in watts?

Seedlings do better with T8 lights. I grow mine in red cups until the root is really filling the cup. The T8 grows many more internodes than LED which gets your plant off to a great start. I clone first in a clone bucket – super great. Then when I transplant from the red cups, it’s into a gallon and 1/3 sized container. Same thing with the roots, let them grow into the container. When they are 1’ to 18" I transplant one last time into a 3-5 gallon container. I let them get comfortable and start to grow again. Then I set to flower. I’ve got 2 6 × 6 tents and I have about 1200 LED watts worth of UFO lights in each. Not much heat and I can lower and raise according to need. In one tent, instead of UFOs I have a Mars Hydro 144 in the middle – that’s 300 LED watts, though covering a larger area. LED is the best way to grow and flower, the taste, smell of your herbs are amazingly better. Starting with T8 there are many more internodes, i.e. places for flowers later. Or for cutting clones off. Don’t overpay for LED lights, because prices should be coming down not going up on these. A 300 watt light shouldn’t cost $1000! Shop around. Most ufo light dealers on ebay are great, I’ve bought from a few. They list the number of LED lights, the color and what it is good for. They can give great yields of top shelf herbs which is what you want. Some with UV etc even help chase away the evil mites. Good luck.

Whats a good estimate on amount of plants to put under 1000w full spectrum led 15 inches wide light

My question is the same as Kevin’s. Why are you using watts to talk about LEDs. Doing this chart (which could be SUPER helpful) with watts instead of lumens leaves the question of whether or not you’re talking about the actual wattage required to run the bulb or the “watt equivalent” of a typical bulb. ie: are you talking about an LED that requires 50 watts of power? Or are you saying an LED that produces the same amount of lumens as a typical 50watt bulb?

The LED grow light market is expected to rise to more than $1.9 Billion by 2020, growing at a Compound Annual Growth Rate (CAGR) of 26.93% between 2015 and 2020.

http://www.marketsandmarkets.com/pdfdownload.asp?id=237907331

why are you talking about wattage? plants use lumens. So, If have a system that can create more lumens with less energy input (wattage) that is the goal. which LED lights can achieve with computer chips. lumens = photosynthesis. watts are the input of energy to run the equipment that produces lumens. So question I ask is How many lumens do I need per square foot? The sun right is probably suppling well over 12000 lumens ?

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i understand that your suppose to keep the walls as close to your plants (or in other words keep them in an area that makes sense as to how many plants you have.) but in my case i have bought a larger grow tent than i needed but i wanted room for if i ever decided to grow more. but anyways im only growing about 6 plants and i have a 16 foot area how many watts would you say i need? i am have extreme trouble with this please email me!!!!!!!!!!

the black dog is a far more superior Led with its range and full spectrum. with veg range Phytomax 600 veg range 6×6 flower range 4×4

smd leds are not suitable for growing, un need to look for power leds.
in addiction, led bulbs emit light on a very specific frequency, one kind of blue and one kind of red are not enough. you need at least 440nm and 480nm on the blue and 640nm and 680nm on the red

I have a tower garden which did great outside this past summer. Around the garden I put 4 4 foot strips of 9 blue 27 red 5watt each. Description says 15w 36 smd 5050. Is this enough to grow my plants. They aren’t doing so well.

Good info thanks

New to LED scene kinda, cuz I got duped on Amazon for SUPPOSED FULL SPECTRUM 145watt UFO style.. It killed my seedlings. I think it was a bloom bulb, it was VERY pinkish/red. I assume missing the blues of the real deal LEDs out now I see, more of whitish purplely pink.. Lol. Trying to not go over 300$ as this will only raise 1 to 2 sour x kush beans I got a handful of from last season.. Will most likely fim, then LST them (my usual method-get 4 or more fat kolas, but THEN install a simple PVC scrog to up yield of only 2 plant harvests.. As a personal use grower, I can say LED may be the future guys..not everyone can outfit an exhaust system w carbon scrubber anywhere they please.. As far as I know their self cooled n all that’s needed is a fan for circulation.. I hope these new LEDs work better then my last 130 investment.. Trying to hit like 250$ n e advice appreciated

Those numbers are exactly what I’ve found in my experiments.
With real 65W in 0.5×0.5 meter space I’m growing 65-70g of nice flowers

I’m getting some real good information thank you very much

top notch info thanks!